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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2019 12:25 am 
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After the Earth Union Fleet encountered the Data Venia class, modified Aeolus Levant class cargo liners, they looked into what the hull might offer the Fleet. Overall, the Marines liked the concept and design, and were especially happy with its ability to drop large cargo containers from orbit to resupply them without having to risk any sort of transport. What the Fleet wanted, though, was engineering commonality with what was already in service, and so what was being termed "AS-X" underwent a major redesign while it was still on the drawing board.

The original civilian engineering section was replaced with the same engineering section as used on Lyceum, which used six of the engines used by the E-Class gunstar. Also, while BuShips was getting the kinks worked out of the engineering spaces, the decision was made to heavily modify the cargo container hardpoints so that it had twenty-four universal hardpoints in addition to the standard container hardpoints. This simple change gave the ship the capability to carry up to twenty-four of the new super heavy autonomous drones that had been developed as a much more flexible and capable drone, at the expense of being much larger and only fitting one to a hardpoint. These drones could be fitted out deliver supplies autonomously or they could be configured to be anything from a barracks to a field hospital to a fire support base, and control spaces could be added to give those aboard direct control.

When the first ship, Thrace, was christened and commissioned into the Fleet, it was initially resisted by some of the more conservative wing of the Marines and Fleet concerned with orbital assault, but within a year that resistance had been changed to support after Thrace proved the concept in the field. The biggest selling points were being able to deliver more than a dozen Ziz-loads of supplies stealthily and without risk of life, and the ability to drop a Mobile Hospital exactly where it was needed and would do the most good.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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As was done with several other E2 Design classes, Tisiphone was evolved into an assaultstar by changing her flight pods and some of the internal spaces. The Melite class emerged and with slightly uprated engines, proved to be a very capable fast assaultstar capable of independent and expeditionary operations should the need present itself. The hangars were spacious and extended partially into the hull, providing more than enough space for the embarked Ziz landers. The opposed deck was utilized for Vipers and other craft.

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The E2 Design consortium produced hull designs that were extremely adaptable, both to redesign for other tasks, and for the ability to easily accept an dradis defeating anechoic coating, something that the older designs with their large slab sides couldn't do. This reduced the dradis signature dramatically and at low cost, providing a majority of the benefits without the excessive cost a dedicated stealth hull would require. E2 Design applied the coating to the name ship of the Melite class to produce the Block 2.

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E2 also applied the coating to the Block 7 Deo Vindice, producing the Block 8 Molpadia.

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The Dynamene with the coating, in this case, Medusa:

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The Hera class with the coating, in this case, Euryale:

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And finally, the A-Class in Block 3 configuration with the coating:

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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You made my day!!! Thanks I always had a soft spot the the earth forces,


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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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rit57 wrote:
You made my day!!! Thanks I always had a soft spot the the earth forces,


Glad to help! You'll like the next post!

I'm giving serious thought to using the Earth Union ships in a standalone story that while it pays homage to BSG, is separate and distinct.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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Some of these have been posted before, some not, but these are the "stealthy" Earth Union ships that are considered "Line Elements". The Angels of Death are not included here as they're more of a retribution weapon than an offensive weapon.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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In 1985 a white paper circulated among the Admiralty's Plans and Policy office that examined the potential need for a well armed, well protected, medium sized gunstar that was capable of making landfall, and could be largely supported and maintained using commercial off the shelf components using civilian merchant crew and staff. The president of Electra Ship Company of Electra saw the white paper and using it as a baseline, created a similar internal design challenge for the various design teams as a three year project to be worked on during the teams' down time. The intention was to create a sense of competition to create something to meet what was most likely an unattainable set of requirements.

Engineers and design specialists, however, have a habit of accepting impossible challenges and finding a way to meet them. Such was the case with this challenge and as a result, the Privateer Project was created. When the president reviewed the designs that were submitted, one stood out; its design team called it Privateer. What they had created was nothing short of amazing and when the president presented it to the Board of Directors, they immediately authorized funds for the construction of a prototype. If the Fleet decided they didn't want it, they reasoned, it would be an ideal ship for the local planetary navies or even the Guard.

What made Privateer work was that instead of building the entire ship to a military standard, it was largely built to an enhanced civilian standard with only those areas that needed a military standard being built to one. The engines selected were standard commercial designs that were already in use on Taggart Lines' Brawny and Victory class transports and had one of the best maintenance records and best thrust/fuel use ratios of any engine currently in service. Into the broad, spade shaped hull, a high end military grade integrated electronic warfare and dradis system was installed to support the standard 1-meter kinetic mounts that gave the ship its punch. Midships was a transverse hangar that could handle any small craft up to and including a Ziz lander (though only the folding tail version could be accommodated).

When the Admiralty saw what was being offered, the immediately purchased four hulls, enough for a test and evaluation squadron. Shortly after the fourth hull was launched and was in the process of being fitted out, there was a data breach at Electra Ship Company that saw all files on the Privateer Project and its companion, the Mercenary Project, being copied and stolen. As the four test ships were finishing their trials, the Admiralty received confirmation that at the first example produced for Erisian service had been launched.

The four trails ships were given an anechoic coating and used for long duration surveillance of openly declared Erisian worlds.

Timandra was the fourth hull produced.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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Before he passed, Canis and I discussed the launch tubes on the Earth Union ships as compared to those on Colonial ships. One of my observations when he drew Asteria, Dione, and Lamia, was that he used two different sized launch tubes. Artemisia had launch tubes in the hull which were the same size as the Colonial tubes, which would easily handle the Union Viper. Asteria, Dione, and Lamia, had a mix of sizes; one that was the smaller version and one that was much larger, about 30% larger. Over the next few days I'm going to start doing some modifications on the current crop of battlestars using the smaller tube sizes. My initial estimate is that for every ten tubes, fifteen of the smaller version will fit.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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Prior to the Genocide which led to the Exodus, the Admiralty convened a symposium that brought together Fleet personnel, futurists, science fiction writers, ship designers, and naval engineers to explore solutions for two problems; providing enough air cover during a planetary invasion to ensure air supremacy and something that would provide air cover for convoys, system security, and with minor configuration changes, serve as a long duration patrol asset.

And it had to be done while being cost effective and preferably using shipyards that may not be suitable for heavier Fleet combatants.

The symposium lasted a week and many different designs were offered that ranged from the conservative to the risky, and all showed innovation and forward thinking. However, when all entries were judged, the team that was composed of Commander Templeton Quantrill, Dr. Alanna von Lettow, Skip Colliingsby, and James Murdoch of E2 won with a pair of designs that even had the other teams offering their support.

The design utilized two of the flight pods developed for the Rhodos, a Block 2 Asteria class battlestar, combined with a center section, and the engines from an E-Class gunstar. The baseline design, christened Cladeus, would have been novel, but the more capable version, Clio, was one of those solutions that once seen makes one wonder why they didn't see it before. Clio was, quite simply, two Cladeus' joined bottom to bottom with redesigned internals and some additional habitation spaces. Clio was different internally, naturally, but shared similar internal structure that allowed for a projected fast fabrication at smaller shipyards that were already producing components for larger yards.

Both ships had a good thrust to weight ratio, and simulations showed that they would have excellent endurance and spacekeeping properties. One question was raised during the presentation; why are they using 2m guns rather than the smaller 1m guns? The design team explained that these ships weren't designed or intended to be line of battle ships, but rather be convoy escorts, patrolling "warm" systems, and to provide additional flight decks to ensure that air supremacy was maintained during an invasion and as such, the magazines would be loaded with flak rounds with only a small percentage being kinetic penetrators.

The Admiralty liked the designs and contracted for several to be completed and field tested in a "try before you buy" program. Field tests went exceptionally smoothly for a new design mixing components and series production contracts were issued for their procurement.

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(You just know that they're going to make an appearance...think Leyte Gulf...Taffy 3 will not be forgotten!)

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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Since it was mentioned in the previous post, here is the Rhodos, a Block 2 Asteria class battlestar. The Asterias were heavy battlestars but had small flight pods, something that many argued was a waste of their hull and pointed to the Dione class as being what the hull should be like. Given that both battlestars shared everything but the flight pods and supports, some pundits pointed out that if they wanted something with the capabilities of a Dione, why not just buy that design rather than forcing a highly maneuverable ship that was essentially a heavy gunstar with flight pods into being something it wasn't.

Naturally, the comments fell on deaf ears and the Asteria Block 2 was developed and inducted into the Fleet where it quickly earned the name "Turtle". By all accounts, they were capable ships and had enormous hangars, which more forward thinking Admirals decided would make them excellent battlestars to join an assaultstar group. The extra hangars could be configured to barracks or allow the ship to carry a heavier airwing or additional transports.

All in all, many came to the belief that they were answers in dire need of questions.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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The Block 2 Asteria class was quickly modified into the Block 3, the only outward difference being that the hull mounted fighter tubes were replaced with Roc/Turul tubes. This completed the design's transformation from line of battle battlestar to assaultstar escort.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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That's two Christmas present anew chapter and new Earth Union ships.


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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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Merry Christmas! :-)

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A New Concept...

During the first year of President Marquette's first term, she signed an appropriations bill that would ultimately result in the battlestars Union and Alliance, both based off the Asteria class battlestar. One of the issues that was becoming evident, or perhaps better put, was finally being acknowledged, was that the actual governmental bodies that led the Earth Union - the Executive branch, Legislative Branch, and Judicial Branch, were extremely isolated from the majority of the population. All Union level government resided on and was directed from Earth, which left worlds like Electra, El Dorado, Caledonia, Troubadour, and others, increasingly cut off from the actual workings of government. These worlds did, however, have Union government annexes where government business was transacted, but the people just couldn't go and interact with it. For the smaller population worlds, it was even worse; smaller Union government presence, less resources allocated, and issues that were important to them were seemingly never addressed.

Thus, during her campaign, Marquette promised to ensure that the government would be more accessible to the people. Her ultimate plan was simple; create a ship that could not just house the three organs of federal government, but also be able to protect it should it come under attack. This removed the possibility that a habitat ship like Carousel or Sequoia could be used because they were relatively thin skinned and lacked any armor or real defenses.

A battlestar was certainly large enough when most of the internal magazines, nuclear missiles, and their autoloaders were removed, but more space was needed. The design that was finally approved mated what were essentially two Libertas class transports, minus their engines, to the core of a Block 2 Asteria in place of her normal pods. This formed the baseline Block 1 Union class. The Block 2 was further refinement that added four communications domes, two under each pod, and the definitive production version, the Block 3, added a habitat dome.

Inside the ship were spaces dedicated to all three branches of government, offices for all necessary personnel, court rooms, and presidential spaces. Most of an elected Representative's or Senator's staff remained on Earth, and civilian lobbyists saw their access suddenly curtailed. This played into Marquette's hidden agenda for the project; divorce the legislators from the opinion makers and instead, make them focus on the peoples' business. The events that started the Erisian movement and later uprising should never have progressed to a point where they became critically divisive issues...had the government interacted and listened to the people.

In the end, however, Union had was still finishing trials and had been commissioned for less than three months while Alliance was in the final stages of fitting out when the Drones went on their murderous rampage.

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 Post subject: Re: Battlestar Hecate
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Kurt, past two evenings a row when I try to download your last two ships I get an error from Postimage. any reason?

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Hmm...I'm getting the same thing when I go into to the folder and click on the image. It shows the thumbnail, but not the full size.

I've uploaded all three Union versions with different file names...

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