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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:08 pm 
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The canonical map of the Colonies shows the four star systems of the Cyrannus cluster, but Caprica, Blood & Chrome, and simple extrapolation of human nature implies that there were quite a few worlds outside the four core systems that had some form of settlement on them.

The war would have caused a withdraw from anything across the Armistice line, but what about the other worlds? What happened to them? Were they:

1. Abandoned and evacuated
2. Still active with some level of contact with the Colonies
3. As 2, but no contact
4. Other

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:33 pm 
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It seems to me that such worlds would have been extremely vulnerable during the Cylon War. Any that weren't either decimated by the Cylons or abandoned by the Colonials would most likely still be a part of Colonial civilisation at the time of the renewed conflict.

If it was worth the effort to defend then it would be worth effort to retain post war.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:38 pm 
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1 and possibly 2, if 2 then it would be no communications.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:59 pm 
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kfeltenberger wrote:

1. Abandoned and evacuated
2. Still active with some level of contact with the Colonies
3. As 2, but no contact


All of the above, a lot would be abandoned, especially newer ones that hadn't grown to much or weren't vital (Tylium mines for example would be fought hard for). Some, mostly around the core systems would fall into No.2, but further out there could be worlds that were abandoned by the fleet as non-vital, but whose people refused to leave (like the Federation Citizens living in the DMZ along the Fed/Cardassian border). These worlds would have lost contact, and frankly might be in no hurry to reestablish it after the war. Think about it this way, during WW2 after japan attacked Hawaii if the US Gov said, Hawaii isn't worth fighting for & walked away, whether they were invaded/conquered or not is irrelevant, they were abandoned, after the war would they welcome the US back as nothing had happened?

It's also these outer worlds that could be a source of "pirates" or rather privateers. Armed merchant ships that would go after small cargo ships and just swallow them whole & then jump away. The cargo would be sold on the open market back home, the captured ship could become a spy ship or courier moving intell, people or small cargo to be reverse engineered back home, while the crew/passengers on the ships could be used to grow the population (look, you have a choice, sit here in prison for the rest of your life, or move to that small town, grow crops, get married and make a life for your self, the choice is yours!).

Muhahahaha!! :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:06 am 
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Good feedback, guys!

In Lady H, there have been four examples of extra-Colonial Sphere (and Colonial settled) settled worlds:

1. Aquaba - local to the Sphere, used as a spa and source of resources (sand)
2. Voss' Star system - Wyatt Resort - This is beyond the Armistice Line and was abandoned by the Colonies
3. Haven - Settled by the Romani, but not always inhabited.
4. Islands Cluster - A Cancerian colony project prior to the Uprising and Unification, the world was abandoned by the Colonial government because it was behind the Armistice Line despite having a sizable population spread across several worlds.

So I guess you could say that I've hit most of the options. ;-)

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I definitely think there are extra colonial settlements, especially prior to the uprising. Most would maintain ties with the Governments or corporations that sponsored them, so that they can be resupplied with food and medicine and conduct trade with their sponsors. I think a small amount wouldn't and would be groups that want to live off the radar. They would be farther away from Cyrannus.

I could see many of the smaller settlements being abandoned during the uprising, and the larger settlements being attacked by the Cylons. So either way works. Settlements that didn't want to maintain ties with the Colonies would vary between prosperous, horrible conditions, wiped out by the Cylons (or mysterious forces, dun dun duuuun!), and just died off or abandoned due to bad luck.

And don't forget about military outposts, though those would more likely be space based installations.


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All the above are possible. It wasn't really expanded on during the four seasons of the show and briefly touched on in blood and chrome.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:50 pm 
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Just for a bit of reference...there are ~260,000 within 250 light years of Earth, so if the stellar density is similar, there would be lots of places to hide or fall through the cracks.

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Not to sound stupid was there ever other intelligent species shown in BSG? like how for Trek theres us Humans and Vulcans for example as a other intelligent species. :)


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No. The only intelligent species shown were the humans, Cylons, and five that made it off Earth. Ron Moore (IIRC, it was RDM) said something to the effect that he didn't want "rubber headed aliens" in the show and would walk if he had to put them in. It was a direct dig at Star Trek and how ever alien was portrayed by a human with some sort of weird rubber appliance as makeup.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:44 am 
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kfeltenberger wrote:
No. The only intelligent species shown were the humans, Cylons, and five that made it off Earth. Ron Moore (IIRC, it was RDM) said something to the effect that he didn't want "rubber headed aliens" in the show and would walk if he had to put them in. It was a direct dig at Star Trek and how ever alien was portrayed by a human with some sort of weird rubber appliance as makeup.


Ahh ok then ^_^;;


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